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For the Sake of Warriors: Accepting the Limits of the Law of War
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When the Law of War Becomes Over-lawyered, JURIST
International Law on the Bombing of Civilians (Gene Dannen).
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What is a war crime? BBC online 31 July 2003 (Tarik Kafala).
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More needed about the pre-modern period

The article has several historical examples then skips to “modern“ which I interpret as after the late 19th century (say, the first Geneva convention). However, in wikipedia, I have often come across references to the accepted laws of war, from about 1650 to 1850. But I can’t find a source which states these “accepted laws of war“. Even negative examples of “generally accepted“ would be useful. Generally accepted, of course, means that both sides in the conflict agree that an action was unacceptable. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Remedies for Violations

“During conflict, punishment for violating the laws of war may consist of a specific, deliberate and limited violation of the laws of war in reprisal.[citation needed]”

I’m not a lawyer, but wouldn’t this then have entitled German Jews to murder millions of Germans and take their possessions? This doesn’t seem to make sense. 97.104.75.33 (talk) 08:09, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No; that's covered by the EXTENSIVE stringent restrictions on belligerent reprisals. While the law of war was mostly developed & formalized after WWII, today that would be considered reprisals against protected persons, an extreme war crime for which they hang you. Genocide is also a peremptory norm, meaning that no derogation is permitted, so targeting Jews specifically would be an additional high crime. There's a very long list of reasons why it would be illegal.

I'll have to rewrite the section on reprisals. It's absolutely the most complex part of jus in bello, but it's something that most combatants never need to worry about or even learn, since reprisals can only be authorized by the highest levels of government. They're very-commonly misunderstood in both purpose and practice. LesbianTiamat (She/Her) (troll/pester) 02:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]